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Trojan "backdoor-azv" Don't save or execute !
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David H. Lipman
2004-10-09 12:38:50 UTC
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Trojan "backdoor-azv" was found in SCR embedded in ZIP file. Don't save or execute !

Dave
David H. Lipman
2004-10-09 12:39:20 UTC
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Trojan "backdoor-azv" was found in SCR embedded in ZIP file. Don't save or execute !

Dave
optikl
2004-10-09 13:32:51 UTC
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Post by David H. Lipman
Trojan "backdoor-azv" was found in SCR embedded in ZIP file. Don't save or execute !
Dave
Actually, in my twisted way of looking at things (surely influenced by
the 2004 election) I see your warning as doing a minor disservice. The
laws of natural selection dictate that anyone lame enough to execute
something like this, posted in a NG where the topic is computer viruses,
gets what he/she deserves.
I'm just taking a very compassionate, conservative position here ;)
David H. Lipman
2004-10-09 13:50:37 UTC
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LH:

No one "deserves" to be infected. Even so, they may reinfect other innocents thus
increasing the propagation rate.
BTW: McAfee v7.1E, ENGINE v4320 and DAT v4397 failed to detect it and so did Sysclean with
the latest Trend pattern files. I submitted it to McAfee AVERT Webimmune to get the answer
and a resultant EXTRA.DAT file.

So what was your opinion of last nights debate ?

Dave




"optikl" <***@invalid.net> wrote in message news:7MR9d.209622$***@attbi_s52...
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| Actually, in my twisted way of looking at things (surely influenced by
| the 2004 election) I see your warning as doing a minor disservice. The
| laws of natural selection dictate that anyone lame enough to execute
| something like this, posted in a NG where the topic is computer viruses,
| gets what he/she deserves.
| I'm just taking a very compassionate, conservative position here ;)
optikl
2004-10-09 15:47:50 UTC
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Post by David H. Lipman
No one "deserves" to be infected. Even so, they may reinfect other innocents thus
increasing the propagation rate.
BTW: McAfee v7.1E, ENGINE v4320 and DAT v4397 failed to detect it and so did Sysclean with
the latest Trend pattern files. I submitted it to McAfee AVERT Webimmune to get the answer
and a resultant EXTRA.DAT file.
Of course no one "deserves" to be infected. I was being a bit facetious.
I'm just blown away at the thought that anyone visiting a NG where the
topic is computer viruses would open something like this
Post by David H. Lipman
So what was your opinion of last nights debate ?
It was more fun than the first one. Though, the best question of the
night, I thought, was the one directed to the sitting President that
asked him to name three mistakes he made out of the thousands of
decisions he made over the past four years. His response was very
telling. Kerry sounds very "presidential", but you need a compass to
figure out where he stands. Bush comes across like that guy who used to
sit at the back of the class and make wise cracks and give smart assed
answers to questions. This is an election about who would do the least
damage if elected.
Post by David H. Lipman
Dave
|
| Actually, in my twisted way of looking at things (surely influenced by
| the 2004 election) I see your warning as doing a minor disservice. The
| laws of natural selection dictate that anyone lame enough to execute
| something like this, posted in a NG where the topic is computer viruses,
| gets what he/she deserves.
| I'm just taking a very compassionate, conservative position here ;)
Screaming Radish
2004-11-03 15:19:00 UTC
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Post by David H. Lipman
No one "deserves" to be infected. Even so, they may reinfect other innocents thus
increasing the propagation rate.
BTW: McAfee v7.1E, ENGINE v4320 and DAT v4397 failed to detect it and so did Sysclean with
the latest Trend pattern files. I submitted it to McAfee AVERT Webimmune to get the answer
and a resultant EXTRA.DAT file.
So what was your opinion of last nights debate ?
Dave
|
| Actually, in my twisted way of looking at things (surely influenced by
| the 2004 election) I see your warning as doing a minor disservice. The
| laws of natural selection dictate that anyone lame enough to execute
| something like this, posted in a NG where the topic is computer viruses,
| gets what he/she deserves.
| I'm just taking a very compassionate, conservative position here ;)
You are wrong, some people do deserve to be infected... say for instance
people who reply above the quoted text of the original poster! :p
Some Guy
2004-10-09 13:40:09 UTC
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Post by optikl
Post by David H. Lipman
Trojan "backdoor-azv" was found in SCR embedded in ZIP file.
Don't save or execute !
I see your warning as doing a minor disservice.
I'm just taking a very compassionate, conservative position here ;)
He didn't say which file he found it in. His warning was, therefore,
not very effective.
David H. Lipman
2004-10-09 14:04:13 UTC
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Yes I did or is English your 2cnd language ?

"...SCR embedded in ZIP file..."

Dave



"Some Guy" <***@Guy.gh> wrote in message news:***@Guy.gh...
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| He didn't say which file he found it in. His warning was, therefore,
| not very effective.
Phil Carmody
2004-10-09 19:45:24 UTC
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Post by David H. Lipman
|
| He didn't say which file he found it in. His warning was, therefore,
| not very effective.
Yes I did or is English your 2cnd language ?
"...SCR embedded in ZIP file..."
Do you still have the boxes and the shaped polystyrene pieces your
PC was packed in? If you've also kept the receipt, you might even
be able to get a refund when you take your machine back to the shop
where you bought it.

HAND,
Phil
--
They no longer do my traditional winks tournament lunch - liver and bacon.
It's just what you need during a winks tournament lunchtime to replace lost
... liver. -- Anthony Horton, 2004/08/27 at the Cambridge 'Long Vac.'
David H. Lipman
2004-10-09 20:26:40 UTC
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Bought it my PC ?

Built it and all the others in my SOHO LAN from scratch.
I have probably built and repaired more computers than your entire school district has.

Dave



"Phil Carmody" <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:***@nonospaz.fatphil.org...
|
| Do you still have the boxes and the shaped polystyrene pieces your
| PC was packed in? If you've also kept the receipt, you might even
| be able to get a refund when you take your machine back to the shop
| where you bought it.
|
| HAND,
| Phil
| --
| They no longer do my traditional winks tournament lunch - liver and bacon.
| It's just what you need during a winks tournament lunchtime to replace lost
| ... liver. -- Anthony Horton, 2004/08/27 at the Cambridge 'Long Vac.'
Phil Carmody
2004-10-09 21:33:21 UTC
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Post by David H. Lipman
Bought it my PC ?
What language are you trying to speak?
Post by David H. Lipman
Built it and all the others in my SOHO LAN from scratch.
I have probably built and repaired more computers than your entire school district has.
Well you should have built them more reliably then.

But I guess that's not bad for someone with the intellectual capacity
of a doofus. Now bugger off back to alt.comp.virus.doofii and don't
cross post to places where people displaying gross ignorance are
sneered at.

Phil
(Yes, I know.)
--
They no longer do my traditional winks tournament lunch - liver and bacon.
It's just what you need during a winks tournament lunchtime to replace lost
... liver. -- Anthony Horton, 2004/08/27 at the Cambridge 'Long Vac.'
jayjwa
2004-10-10 15:19:58 UTC
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Post by David H. Lipman
Bought it my PC ?
Built it and all the others in my SOHO LAN from scratch.
I have probably built and repaired more computers than your entire school district has.
Then why, pray tell, are you such a lamer? No one in any virus* group
cares about you totally useless warning. "SRC in the ZIP file" tells
me absolutely nothing. Which virus? 'Oh, the one written in a computer
language' <- about as usefull.

Are you also aware that you cross-posted to news groups with radically
different views on viruses? FYI, "pro" means "in favour of".

These warnings are useless. Please, stop posting them. Evenone and
their Grandmother knows the viruses are out there. Not everyone is
running a vulnerable, execute-everything-by-default OS. Even if you
are, you still have to be behind the game to get infected. In over 13
years of MS-DOS, Windows(fill in the blank), Unix and Linux,
intentionally running some viruses, over 4,000 live viruses stored on
varies disks and probably twice that archived, I've *never once*
"infected" myself (beyond the intentional actions that running a virus
would produce, eg, never out of hand).

replies > /dev/null
--
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++
Miles Fromier
2004-10-11 01:03:16 UTC
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Post by jayjwa
Are you also aware that you cross-posted to news groups with radically
different views on viruses? FYI, "pro" means "in favour of".
In order to warn the people monitoring the groups it was posted to, are you suggesting that he only post the warning in one group?
That's a dumb idea.
Post by jayjwa
replies > /dev/null
How rude - like "over and out" or sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling and stomping your feet so you can be
ignorant. I don't like seeing the warnings either (I never see the original posts), but he is trying to do a good thing.
Phil Carmody
2004-10-11 20:58:28 UTC
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Post by Miles Fromier
Post by jayjwa
Are you also aware that you cross-posted to news groups with radically
different views on viruses? FYI, "pro" means "in favour of".
In order to warn the people monitoring the groups it was posted to, are you suggesting that he only post the warning in one group?
That's a dumb idea.
Informing the OP that his post was utterly useless to several of
the groups it was cross-posted to, and thus that it should not have
been posted there is not dumb.
Post by Miles Fromier
Post by jayjwa
replies > /dev/null
How rude - like "over and out" or sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling and stomping your feet so you can be
ignorant. I don't like seeing the warnings either (I never see the original posts), but he is trying to do a good thing.
Yes we can be rude too, but with justification.

Some doofus comes barging into the group spouting useless and
unwanted nonsense - of course we metaphorically stick our fingers
in our ears, or at least inform the fellow that we'd kindly
appreciate it if he shut the fuck up with his bloody claptrap.

However, Jayjwa wasn't rude - he's pretty polite, almost
sophisticated. Others would just tell such doofuses to evolve
a fucking axon to connect their two brain cells together.

There are places where his warnings would be useful and/or
welcome. However his selection of froups was well up the
creek.

HTH, HAND,
Phil
--
They no longer do my traditional winks tournament lunch - liver and bacon.
It's just what you need during a winks tournament lunchtime to replace lost
... liver. -- Anthony Horton, 2004/08/27 at the Cambridge 'Long Vac.'
Miles Fromier
2004-10-11 22:29:29 UTC
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Post by Phil Carmody
Post by Miles Fromier
Post by jayjwa
Are you also aware that you cross-posted to news groups with radically
different views on viruses? FYI, "pro" means "in favour of".
In order to warn the people monitoring the groups it was posted to, are you suggesting that he only post the warning in one
group?
Post by Phil Carmody
Post by Miles Fromier
That's a dumb idea.
Informing the OP that his post was utterly useless to several of
the groups it was cross-posted to, and thus that it should not have
been posted there is not dumb.
"Utterly useless" implies that you know the skill level of all readers of the groups you feel should not have been included
in the warning, and/or that they all use servers that disallow binary attachments. I agree that the warnings are useless for
most readers in the virus groups, but not all of them.
Post by Phil Carmody
Post by Miles Fromier
Post by jayjwa
replies > /dev/null
How rude - like "over and out" or sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling and stomping your feet so you can be
ignorant. I don't like seeing the warnings either (I never see the original posts), but he is trying to do a good thing.
Yes we can be rude too, but with justification.
Some doofus comes barging into the group spouting useless and
unwanted nonsense - of course we metaphorically stick our fingers
in our ears, or at least inform the fellow that we'd kindly
appreciate it if he shut the fuck up with his bloody claptrap.
However, Jayjwa wasn't rude - he's pretty polite, almost
sophisticated. Others would just tell such doofuses to evolve
a fucking axon to connect their two brain cells together.
Hey, a good insult is less rude than a refusal to accept retorts IMO.
Post by Phil Carmody
There are places where his warnings would be useful and/or
welcome. However his selection of froups was well up the
creek.
HTH, HAND,
See, that's nicer than the replies > /dev/null was - even if you don't really mean it. :)
Post by Phil Carmody
Phil
Making a statement like that and then indicating that all replies will be sent to the nul device is rude. True it is not as rude as
other things I have seen on usenet. :) As for Jayjwa, I think he is an asset to the sc group seeing as just about the only sc
posted has been from him.
Character
2004-10-11 18:22:00 UTC
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Post by Some Guy
Post by optikl
Post by David H. Lipman
Trojan "backdoor-azv" was found in SCR embedded in ZIP file.
Don't save or execute !
I see your warning as doing a minor disservice.
I'm just taking a very compassionate, conservative position here ;)
He didn't say which file he found it in. His warning was, therefore,
not very effective.
It was posted as a reply to the "david beckham" post. The subject line
was changed; some newsreaders then don't thread the messages together.

- CH
Al Smith
2004-10-09 19:22:00 UTC
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Post by David H. Lipman
Trojan "backdoor-azv" was found in SCR embedded in ZIP file. Don't save or execute !
Dave
Gee, what a surprise. I'm so shocked at the untrustworthiness of
my fellow man.
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